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Opy
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:51 pm    Post subject: Grind testing. Reply with quote

I tried to get clarification on the psu boards on this, but it didnt happen.

When I grinded my Yohmei spear (5*), I got it to +6
this added 102 att to it.

When looking for what determines the amount of the grind per each grind, all i could find was that its a random number (1-10) (psupedia)

This i know not to be true. Altho, this seems to be the case for PP

In looking back at my spear, I added 5% of the ATT to the ATT, at each phase and came up with the exact amount of ATT that it had at its final stage.

So, I'm pretty sure now its a set percent of the ATT per grind.

Heres my question.

Can anyone else that is thinking about grinding pay close attention to the base ATT before and after the grind and let me know if it is 5% ?

I have a feeling the % can vary between weapon manufacturers.
And possibly weapon types, (sword/gun/casting)
might also vary on how advanced the weapon is (3*, 4*, 5*)

This would be important in choosing on weapon type in the future.

Thanks for your help. Im going to grind some junk C/B rank weaps once or twice to test this week.

Mabye we can use this thread to keep track, and possible create a grid that can help others.

Here is a table to go buy:
    Weapon type:
    Weapon mfg:
    *'s
    Rank:
    %:
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kitty ground 2 Rayhardods to 5 each and they had the exact same TP and PP when she was done. So I'm not sure that PP is random either. I'd say it's either a set percentage like you say or every weapon has it's own "grind table" that determines it's stats at each grind level.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SerraBritt wrote:
Kitty ground 2 Rayhardods to 5 each and they had the exact same TP and PP when she was done. So I'm not sure that PP is random either. I'd say it's either a set percentage like you say or every weapon has it's own "grind table" that determines it's stats at each grind level.


find out the base and total TP for me, and ill try and figure the % of TP

The PP tables on psupedia are not random but specific amounts based on type / lvl etc. and they seem specific enough to think the information was farmed somehow. its the ATT and maybe TP that i think is lacking.

Thanks for you help
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are some numbers for you Opy =^.^=

Rayharod+0 PP 983 TP 219
Rayharod+5 PP 1059 TP 325

Hajirod+0 PP 1080 TP 364
Hajirod+2 PP 1124 TP 386

Gigush+0 PP 224 ATP 170
Gigush+1 PP 233 ATP 194
Gigush+5 PP 263 ATP 279

Dual Slasher+0 PP 270 ATP 198
Dual Slasher+1 PP 279 ATP 204

Pallasch+0 PP 217 ATP 280
Pallasch+1 PP 224 ATP 292

Autogun+0 PP 438 ATP 95
Autogun+1 PP 467 ATP 112

Twin Autogun+0 PP 754 ATP 76
Twin Autogun+1 PP 783 ATP 82
Twin Autogun+2 PP 806 ATP 87

Have fun, these were all the grinded things I had available to check out Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks !!!!
your awsome
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, for ATP it looks like my theory is shot....

no % seems to match.


Your auto gun atp went up 17 points on the first grind.

Your gigush went up 14 points in one grind, then averaged 28 for the next three grinds. which is a huge number.

so now im completely confused.


One theory i have, is that its a random number, which is then added to the number of previous grinds, but i think thats kinda out too.

Im starting to think its just a random number, but the range is higher, mabye (1-30)

im not real good with math, so i might be missing a pattern...

anyway, ill let you know if i come up with anything specific.

thanks ^^
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I'm not sure it's a pattern so much as "each weapon grinds a specific way" Though maybe if I had more data I could help you out. I'd say, test a class of weapons first, using different manufacterers to see if there is a specific pattern up to say...+3? If you have good grinders and it's a lucky day for you that is usually guaranteed on a C rank weapon at least =^.^=
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